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talks about detroit, mitt romney is a car guy. they keep misquoting him. let me tell you about the mitt romney i now. this is a guy who i was talking to a family in north borrow, massachusetts, the other day, cheryl and mark nixon, their kids were hit in a car crash four of them two of them rob and reid, were paralyzed. the romneys didn't know them. they went to the same church, never met before. mitt asked if he could come over on christmas. he brought his boys, his wife, and gifts. later on he said i know you're struggling, mark, don't worry about their college, i'll pay for it. when mark told me this story, mitt romney doesn't tell these stories, the nixons told this story. he said it wasn't the help, the cash help, it's that he gave his time and has consistently. this is a man who gave 30% of his income to charity, more than the two of us combined. mitt romney is a good man. he cares about 100% of americans in this country. with respect to that quote, i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the r
talks about detroit, mitt romney is a car guy. they keep misquoting him. let me tell you about the mitt romney i now. this is a guy who i was talking to a family in north borrow, massachusetts, the other day, cheryl and mark nixon, their kids were hit in a car crash four of them two of them rob and reid, were paralyzed. the romneys didn't know them. they went to the same church, never met before. mitt asked if he could come over on christmas. he brought his boys, his wife, and gifts. later on...
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. >> you what romney talking about wanting to spend more in defense. if you think that president obama is going to be re-elected. you don't want to be in ratheon, you're going to have to do a little selling. >> caller: i see that united health care purchased 90% of the brazilian health care companies down there, what do you see their stuff going from here and what do you think if romney's elected president? >> it's not as good if romney's elected president. because what happened is the health companies they went all in under obama. they did win. unh goes higher with president obama is re-elected. if you love playing kick the can as a kid, as i did, you should have adored as an investor in an industrial based company, the kick the can theory, our stocks go higher. >>> coming up , ipo stud or dud. but does this cloud play offer enough profit to bring investors back to the table. find out when you get to know this ipo. >>> and later, up, up and away? amazon has already sold almost 50% this year and google is up over 15%. but could these two market leaders
. >> you what romney talking about wanting to spend more in defense. if you think that president obama is going to be re-elected. you don't want to be in ratheon, you're going to have to do a little selling. >> caller: i see that united health care purchased 90% of the brazilian health care companies down there, what do you see their stuff going from here and what do you think if romney's elected president? >> it's not as good if romney's elected president. because what...
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romney points out 47% of the people won't take responsibility. he's talking about my mother and father, talking about places i grew up in my neighbors in scranton and clamont, talking about people that built this country. all they're looking for is an even shot. whenever you give them a shot, they've done it, done it. whenever you level the playing field they've been able to move and they want a little bit of piece of mind. the president and i are not going to rest until that playing field is level and they in fact have a clear shot and have peace of mind. until they can turn to their kid and say with a degree of confidence, honey, it's going to be okay, it's going to be okay. that's what this is all about. >> congressman ryan. >> i want to thank you as well, martha. danville, kentucky, center college and i want to thank you, joe, it's been an honor to engage in this critical debate. we face a very big choice. what kind of country are we going to be? what kind of country are we going to give our kids? president obama, he had his chance. he made h
romney points out 47% of the people won't take responsibility. he's talking about my mother and father, talking about places i grew up in my neighbors in scranton and clamont, talking about people that built this country. all they're looking for is an even shot. whenever you give them a shot, they've done it, done it. whenever you level the playing field they've been able to move and they want a little bit of piece of mind. the president and i are not going to rest until that playing field is...
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bob costa as you talked to the romney/ryan people today, what phrases jump out? what do you think he wants to get across in at least a minimal way? >> they want to defend mitt romney's positions. they want to go after the obama economic record and reach out to new voters, especially view the voters who may find ryan appealing >> i keep talking about this youth thing. i think what ryan represents as a well-informed smart 42-year-old guy and does his body crunches and listens to music on his ipod and so forth, i think that's a tremendous plus for romney, i really do. there's his picture up there. i think, you know, the youth vote is shifting to romney. it's not going to be like it was in 2008. >> that's exactly right, larry. one thing the ryan camp has pushed hard for is to have this debate be a sit-down debate and once he sits down at table with biden he can present a contrast and reach out to youth voters on entitlement and talk about the frank issues facing the country. >> i'm hoping with my fingers crossed that paul ryan stays on the growth message and the tax
bob costa as you talked to the romney/ryan people today, what phrases jump out? what do you think he wants to get across in at least a minimal way? >> they want to defend mitt romney's positions. they want to go after the obama economic record and reach out to new voters, especially view the voters who may find ryan appealing >> i keep talking about this youth thing. i think what ryan represents as a well-informed smart 42-year-old guy and does his body crunches and listens to music...
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governor romney continues to disregard facts. in his foreign policy speeches. >> there he goes larry. >> he says there was no discussion of terrorism in the other debates and that was wrong. >> you know what the big lie is? the president of the united states coming before the american people and lying about those attacks. >> let me get steve law. >> somebody explain that. >> somebody has to explain why obama is not explaining any of these things. >> but so should governor romney say the president didn't sign the free trade agreement. >> this is a key point. psychologically and factually. they, team obama is calling mitt romney a liar over the tax reform plan which even the brookings institute acknowledges that they were wrong. steve, with obama calling romney a liar and 68 million people saw this debate, i got to believe that they are going to back fire against obama this is going to hurt obama. >> i think he turned a perfectly miserable debate performance which was entire survivable into a public relations fiasco. he went from b
governor romney continues to disregard facts. in his foreign policy speeches. >> there he goes larry. >> he says there was no discussion of terrorism in the other debates and that was wrong. >> you know what the big lie is? the president of the united states coming before the american people and lying about those attacks. >> let me get steve law. >> somebody explain that. >> somebody has to explain why obama is not explaining any of these things. >> but...
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the fork in the road so to speak that romney talked about. you know, you can go big government or trusting the individual. the way romney's going. and more emphasis on the individual and small and medium-sized companies. if you want to hear the problem we have with employment, that's really the only way to go. you've got to get small and medium-size business hiring and hiring vigorously and being very optimistic about the future of their businesses. >> i'm fascinated not about tomorrow's debate, but the next debate where the president is -- >> yeah, he's going to have to both be more aggressive, but also to maintain the presidential aura that the incumbent has. and that's tough to do both, i think. and i'm wondering now, does he just go right to 47%? right to tax returns? right to the same old, same old? >> does he argue numbers? >> doesn't he have to do policy? >> i think you probably have to go to numbers because that's why romney -- >> he should bring some of his numbers instead of just talking about the 5 trillion. >> i don't know what nu
the fork in the road so to speak that romney talked about. you know, you can go big government or trusting the individual. the way romney's going. and more emphasis on the individual and small and medium-sized companies. if you want to hear the problem we have with employment, that's really the only way to go. you've got to get small and medium-size business hiring and hiring vigorously and being very optimistic about the future of their businesses. >> i'm fascinated not about tomorrow's...
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a romney presidency could change that. you'd have to start factoring in a different kind of fed if a romney presidency looks more likely in the coming weeks. >> let's get back to the marks here as we go into this final hour. todd, what are you doing right now? >> i'm buying right now, bill. i'll tell you what, you'd be a fool to stay on the sidelines right now. there's some great sectors right there. you really want to concentrate on growth, maybe in the recovering economy, maybe a romney presidency. whatever you want to say. you could look at consumer discretionary names. they should do wonderful, especially with fed accommodation. history has shown us previous times, consumer discretionary stocks did exceptionally well. overall the stock market should do great next year. you can look at the fed argument. you can look at fundamental analysis. both sides support a bullish signal. >> so the four down days we've had here, the five, you see this as a buying opportunity? >> absolutely. build up the war chest. a great entry poi
a romney presidency could change that. you'd have to start factoring in a different kind of fed if a romney presidency looks more likely in the coming weeks. >> let's get back to the marks here as we go into this final hour. todd, what are you doing right now? >> i'm buying right now, bill. i'll tell you what, you'd be a fool to stay on the sidelines right now. there's some great sectors right there. you really want to concentrate on growth, maybe in the recovering economy, maybe a...
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mitt romney tried to build on his successful debate last week by talking foreign policy today and attacking president obama as simply not someone leading. >> i know the president hopes for a safer, freer, and more prosperous middle east allied with us. i share this hope. hope is not a strategy. >> we don't know if that line is going to work, but we know from new polls out today he's made significant headway since the debate. puts a lot of pressure on the vice presidential debate later this week. we'll talk about it at athe bottom of the hour. >> we will see you later on that very topic. also this evening, one battleground state, michigan, will vote on a state constitutional amendment to allowing collective bargaining, unlimited wage increases, and unchecked union power. michigan's governor rick snyder says how it will disrupt his state. they paid hundreds of thousands to a chicago consulting firm for training sessions where employees chant and i quote our forefathers were illegal immigrants. i think that whole story is an outrage. we begin with another monday in the red. the dow closed down
mitt romney tried to build on his successful debate last week by talking foreign policy today and attacking president obama as simply not someone leading. >> i know the president hopes for a safer, freer, and more prosperous middle east allied with us. i share this hope. hope is not a strategy. >> we don't know if that line is going to work, but we know from new polls out today he's made significant headway since the debate. puts a lot of pressure on the vice presidential debate...
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it's been doing much better since romney started talking up coal. i would go there rather than a & r. i think really what we're seeing is a rally in a bear market. >> never one to hold back an opinion, weiss, you certainly have been vocal on caterpillar. cut today from sector perform to outperform at rbc. citing elevated inventories and weakness in china and europe. weiss, you've been short this name if not in ownership of the stock certainly in how you viewed this one for a long time. >> yeah. you know what? i covered some of the short yesterday. but i am still short. the stock's still going lower. a few weeks ago they talked about 2015. what about this quarter? they missed the preannouncement. this is going lower. all their end markets are coming down. >> all right. in addition to the fiscal cliff, of course, health care will be in focus at tonight's vice presidential debate. what should you be listening for and how should you be trading those stocks as we get closer to the election? let's bring in sam eisley. welcome back. people are certainly pl
it's been doing much better since romney started talking up coal. i would go there rather than a & r. i think really what we're seeing is a rally in a bear market. >> never one to hold back an opinion, weiss, you certainly have been vocal on caterpillar. cut today from sector perform to outperform at rbc. citing elevated inventories and weakness in china and europe. weiss, you've been short this name if not in ownership of the stock certainly in how you viewed this one for a long...
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what we're talking about here for romney election, it has absolutely skyrocketed. probably in the low 30s at the end of september and up around 50. and, you know, put open interest is probably 30% higher than call open interest, that's highly unusual for pretty much any stock. >> and we should remind everybody, you can catch more health care coverage at healthy week.cnbc.com, and tune in for coverage of the vice presidential debate. let's also talk coal stocks because coal and coal stocks have been on fire, forgive the pun. since it was perceived that mitt romney was gaining some momentum over president obama. and of course, after he said i like coal. so what do we see here? mike in terms of the options run we've seen in these stocks. >> yeah, we've seen a lot, actually, finally, of bullish activity. these things were all but left for dead. ticker anr saw a lot of november 8 call activity earlier today, probably almost 10,000 of those contracts have traded at about $1.06, a bet that the stock will be above $9, above shortly thereafter, december, 9 and 10 calls beca
what we're talking about here for romney election, it has absolutely skyrocketed. probably in the low 30s at the end of september and up around 50. and, you know, put open interest is probably 30% higher than call open interest, that's highly unusual for pretty much any stock. >> and we should remind everybody, you can catch more health care coverage at healthy week.cnbc.com, and tune in for coverage of the vice presidential debate. let's also talk coal stocks because coal and coal stocks...
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>> we're going there next and i had to have something to talk about. >> why is mitt romney not making more hay with the problems of dodd-frank on the stump? >> i think in the debate -- did you see the debate? >> yeah, but it hasn't been as huge of a talk point as i would have expected. >> maybe they're watching. >> to see if it works? >> no see that kate kelly thinks that there -- there is no doubt that small banks are a part of the problem here. and small business is not being able to get loans right now. >> someone put to me yesterday, they're getting out their pitch forks and torches against what dodd-frank will do with them. >> there's more than five, that was the point made yesterday. >> more than five banks who became systemically important and beneficiaries of all this. >> so you're a little monster, are you going to talk in chairs about -- >> you want me to talk about -- >> to spell gaga, you have to first spell gag. that's a tease. >> we'll talk a little lady gaga after the break. >>> still to come, guest host ken langone will cover the economy, candidates, education. and the
>> we're going there next and i had to have something to talk about. >> why is mitt romney not making more hay with the problems of dodd-frank on the stump? >> i think in the debate -- did you see the debate? >> yeah, but it hasn't been as huge of a talk point as i would have expected. >> maybe they're watching. >> to see if it works? >> no see that kate kelly thinks that there -- there is no doubt that small banks are a part of the problem here. and...
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so let's talk. we have cnbc contributor howard dean, former dnc chair and presidential candidate and governor of vermont and romney surrogate and founder -- >> we had the last debate and joe biden didn't make the case last night. they haven't made it in between. what is the case for reelecting obama. >> jobs are up substantially and 4 million jobs and we have the lowest deficits in four years and we have put people back to work and we would have put more people back to work had more americans passed the jobs bill. and the real case is we have to get some democrats in there because they're more fiscally responsible than this ridiculous $5 trillion tax cut that is not paid for on top of the $2 trillion that they've paid for. >> i don't know a single journalist who thinks -- >> i don't know one single journalist, not one -- >> let me bring -- >> i don't know one person with any credibility to that whatsoev whatsoever. >> larry -- larry -- >> please go ahead. >> i'm sick and tired of hearing howard repe
so let's talk. we have cnbc contributor howard dean, former dnc chair and presidential candidate and governor of vermont and romney surrogate and founder -- >> we had the last debate and joe biden didn't make the case last night. they haven't made it in between. what is the case for reelecting obama. >> jobs are up substantially and 4 million jobs and we have the lowest deficits in four years and we have put people back to work and we would have put more people back to work had more...
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mitt romney remains down in the state of ohio. that is one his campaign believes he must win to get to 270 electoral votes. he's down six, 51%-45% in that state. however, mitt romney got on a wave in denver last week and paul ryan has a chance tonight, guys, to continue that momentum, an interesting match-up, we've seen it before of an older, experienced vice president, a younger less tested running mate. we saw it with dick cheney and with john edwards in 2004. dick cheney got the better of that. we saw it with lloyd benson and dan quayle in 1988. it appeared that lloyd benson got the better of that, but of course george bush and dan quayle won the election. i talked to dan quayle yesterday -- or a few days ago, rather, he said he thinks he helped george h.w. bush in that race, even though he got smacked down with that "you're no jack kennedy" line, because he took the fight to michael dukakis and that's the bottom line that you hear from people who have been through these debates, is that the key for vice presidential candidates
mitt romney remains down in the state of ohio. that is one his campaign believes he must win to get to 270 electoral votes. he's down six, 51%-45% in that state. however, mitt romney got on a wave in denver last week and paul ryan has a chance tonight, guys, to continue that momentum, an interesting match-up, we've seen it before of an older, experienced vice president, a younger less tested running mate. we saw it with dick cheney and with john edwards in 2004. dick cheney got the better of...
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david stockman served in the reagan administration but he's not talking tax cuts, quite the opposite. larry kudlow will take him on. we count you down to the vice presidential debate in danville, kentucky. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. and every day since, we've worked hard to keep it. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help people and businesses who were affected, and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open for everyone to enjoy -- and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. we've shared what we've learned with governments and across the industry so we can all produce energy more safely. i want you to know, there's another commitment bp takes just as seriously: our commitment to america. bp supports nearly two-hundred-fifty thousand jobs in communities across the country. we hired three thousand people just last year. bp invests more in america than in any other country. in fact, over the last five years, no other energy company has invested more in the us than bp. we're working to fuel america
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i don't think that one would make a market forecast based on one's prediction on whether romney comes into president or obama remains in. >> mr. vogel, let's go back here on the expectations of real returns for investors because i think you're talking about something that could be incredibly important. there's been tremendous concern regarding pension funds and their expected rates of returns on a yearly basis of around 8%. some said that's unrealistic. do you believe that's now fair? >> it's ridiculous. it's a numbers game in which the bested interest of the pension managers are to offer high returns and bested interest of the pension funds themselves are not impair the company's earnings by telling the truth. the reality is those numbers, by the way that i gave you before 7% for stocks, 2.5% to 3% for bonds are nominal numbers not real numbers. the real numbers we'll take 2%, 2.5% off of them. as to the 8% pension fund returns, i have a big section in the new book showing what companies would have to do to earn that 8% and the returns are off the chart. you have to have a very high
i don't think that one would make a market forecast based on one's prediction on whether romney comes into president or obama remains in. >> mr. vogel, let's go back here on the expectations of real returns for investors because i think you're talking about something that could be incredibly important. there's been tremendous concern regarding pension funds and their expected rates of returns on a yearly basis of around 8%. some said that's unrealistic. do you believe that's now fair?...
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also carly fiorina will talk about the fresh money coming in for the romney campaign. all that plus states and cities turning to gambling to make up budget shortfalls. we'll bring you a new casino opening up in the battleground state of ohio. first let's get you up to speed on the other top stories. andrew, welcome back. >> good morning. it was decision 2012 in venezuela this weekend. hugo chavez has been reelected. he beat out by a 54-45 margin. in 2006, he won by 27 points. swreker to gives chavez a fresh endorsement of his socialist asian world bank saying brace for slower growth. lowest pace of growth since 2001. and that's predominantly due to the region's exposure to china. and finally, a u.s. congressional committee set to recommend blocking china's big telecom equipment maker from expanding in american markets. leaked report says that there are security risks. >> codo we trust the chinese? >> if you were looking there, i would find another vendor if you care about your indiatakellectu property and the national security of the united states of america. >> that r
also carly fiorina will talk about the fresh money coming in for the romney campaign. all that plus states and cities turning to gambling to make up budget shortfalls. we'll bring you a new casino opening up in the battleground state of ohio. first let's get you up to speed on the other top stories. andrew, welcome back. >> good morning. it was decision 2012 in venezuela this weekend. hugo chavez has been reelected. he beat out by a 54-45 margin. in 2006, he won by 27 points. swreker to...
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it was not kind of talking points, and i think mitt romney was largely responsible for that, he kind of fell back on what he feels comfortable with. >> yes. sure. >> knowing paul ryan that's something he feels comfortable with, too. >> right. >> do you expect to see numbers being brought up on both sides and this being as you said a lot of specifics coming through on this debate and not talking points? >> no. i think there will be a lot of numbers. most of the problems we face there are a lot of numbers involved. as president clinton said at the democratic convention, this thing is really all about arithmetic, but then he went on to explain the problem without using one number so i think the issues are much bigger than numbers but there will be a clear discussion of numbers. i think congressman ryan's hardest thing is trying to keep up with what governor romney's position is on any one of the issues. one of the things that threw president obama off was finding so many new positions like there's no $5 trillion tax cut, i'm not going to cut education when there's already a proposal, th
it was not kind of talking points, and i think mitt romney was largely responsible for that, he kind of fell back on what he feels comfortable with. >> yes. sure. >> knowing paul ryan that's something he feels comfortable with, too. >> right. >> do you expect to see numbers being brought up on both sides and this being as you said a lot of specifics coming through on this debate and not talking points? >> no. i think there will be a lot of numbers. most of the...
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thanks for coming on. >> thank you. >> andrea saul from the romney campaign in boston. >>> we've talked a lot about the 47%. but what about the 6 to 8% that's reportedly how much body fat congressman paul ryan has. coming up next, we'll talk to the man behind ryan's p90x workout, tony horton, next. one is for a clean, wedomestic energy future that puts us in control. our abundant natural gas is already saving us money, producing cleaner electricity, putting us to work here in america and supporting wind and solar. though all energy development comes with some risk, we're committed to safely and responsibly producing natural gas. it's not a dream. america's natural gas... putting us in control of our energy future, now. with scottrader streaming quotes, any way you want. fully customize it for your trading process -- from thought to trade, on every screen. and all in real time. which makes it just like having your own trading floor, right at your fingertips. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. try our easy-to-use scottrader streaming quotes. it's another reas
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let's talk about this for a few moments. cnbc contributor jared bernst n bernstein. jared's got a lot at stake in this debate. >> and art laffer, laffer investments chief investment officer. i want to start with my pal, art laffer. where does this $5 trillion number come from and is it a good or bad thing, the romney tax reform? >> i think the romney tax reform is wonderful. i think what the president did was i think he looked at all the tax rate reductions and didn't realize that romney was also proposing a huge increase in the tax base by eliminating deductions, exemptions, exclusions and other loopholes. and there are lots of them that could be eliminated that will bring it to revenue-neutral. and romney promised it would be revenue-neutral. and i believe him. i think it would be great. i don't know why obama didn't take that issue himself -- >> art, let me say first of all, it's great to see you, art. >> lovely to see you, jared. >> you guys must be very pleased. this is very much your agenda. and i get that, okay. it's not my agenda, but it's yours and i respect
let's talk about this for a few moments. cnbc contributor jared bernst n bernstein. jared's got a lot at stake in this debate. >> and art laffer, laffer investments chief investment officer. i want to start with my pal, art laffer. where does this $5 trillion number come from and is it a good or bad thing, the romney tax reform? >> i think the romney tax reform is wonderful. i think what the president did was i think he looked at all the tax rate reductions and didn't realize that...
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mitt romney staying within striking distance of the president. coming in two points behind the president after essentially winning last week's debate. a long way to go before november 6th. our chief washington correspondent john harwood is here with more. good morning. i know you were aware of some saying that by the weekend the race would be tied. this morning you tweeted as to whether or not that is now actually true. >> reporter: yeah, matthew dodd who was a bush campaigner in 2000, 2004 said we'll have a tied race by monday. we're not quite there yet. it's tied in the rasmussen poll at 48 which featured in the weekend post-debate poll. romney was ahead by two points. there was some impact from the unemployment numbers on friday, you look at the data since the debate it's a 47-47 tie. there's big events coming up. the first debate was the biggest thing since the conventions. now this thursday on the 11th you've got paul ryan and vice president joe biden. this is going to be very important for obama's effort to stave off romney. then on the 16t
mitt romney staying within striking distance of the president. coming in two points behind the president after essentially winning last week's debate. a long way to go before november 6th. our chief washington correspondent john harwood is here with more. good morning. i know you were aware of some saying that by the weekend the race would be tied. this morning you tweeted as to whether or not that is now actually true. >> reporter: yeah, matthew dodd who was a bush campaigner in 2000,...
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if you want to look at romney, what is the one thing he should do in the next debate? he should go after the fed and talk about savers in individuals and corporations and rebalancing policy a little bit. >> they wouldn't be able to accuse him of not having done that. he's also said he's getting rid of bernanke day one. >> you packed the fed with neokeynesian socialists who don't understand housing is the major conduit for policy. if two-thirds of the country can't get refinanced right now, obviously policy is ineffective and they don't want to deal with this and start with bank of america. i'd put something on zero hedge, i want a big fund to come me to do a hostile takeover of bank of america, restructure it and make money. if you have the vision you can create value and all of the sudden the bank is supporting growth again. >> thank you, we appreciate it. neokeynesian -- >> socialist. >> socialist. i may use that. >> paul krugman. >> yeah. >> let's look at the markets this morning, you'll see the u.s. equity futures are indicated higher, dow futures up by about 42 po
if you want to look at romney, what is the one thing he should do in the next debate? he should go after the fed and talk about savers in individuals and corporations and rebalancing policy a little bit. >> they wouldn't be able to accuse him of not having done that. he's also said he's getting rid of bernanke day one. >> you packed the fed with neokeynesian socialists who don't understand housing is the major conduit for policy. if two-thirds of the country can't get refinanced...